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This is the final part of the interview on the soon-to-be-released The Priests of God.

Q- You bring an uncommon perspective on women and God’s priesthood. What can you tell us about that?

A- This, to me, was a thrilling discovery. From an historical and spiritual perspective, the role of godly women is beyond our ability to calculate. It begins in the Garden of Eden with God’s curse on the serpent and on the woman. Briefly, it became clear, from the prophecy in Genesis 3:15, “the serpent would bruise her seed’s heel, but the woman’s seed would crush his head,” was partially fulfilled in Christ’s suffering and his empty tomb. Her “seed” is plural. It refers not just to Christ, but to the saints in the last days. The saints will crush Satan’s head, according to Romans 16:20. Attention has always been on the male heirs and as the head, but, specifically, it is the seed the godly woman carries that will produce Satan’s downfall. I refer to this seed as the priestly seed, as opposed to the righteous man’s kingly seed or the seed of Abraham. When the priestly and kingly seeds unite in one being, we have God’s royal priesthood. There’s more to it, of course. Some is explained in Proverbs and in the wise women of faith throughout the Bible. Look at the strong women of faith we have today. I hope everyone who reads The Priests of God grasps this. It’s beyond genius, on God’s part.

Q- You are saying that women are the unsung heroes of your book?

A- I’m not sure about that, but to understand the order of Melchizedek is to acknowledge the seed of the woman and its role in Bible history and end time prophecy. As a pastor, I remember announcing prayer service to the church. Who would attend, but the same small core of praying women. I don’t think that’s uncommon in churches that have prayer services.

I have to tell you what a friend shared the other day. He witnessed a Christian youth camp service where there were–I wish I could recall how many–let’s say a good number, of young girls aged 9 to 11 at the altar. What he heard he described as wailing. He thought these precious little girls were crying out to God for their fathers, for God to forgive their sins. He also had a sense they were pleading to God for young men who would be worthy husbands. We were wiping away tears as he shared. I’m guessing this has to be global. It’s a preview of Joel 2:28-29 . The Priests of God is right on time. It explains what’s up with God’s daughters.

Q- For our last question, “Where has this book taken you?” By that I mean, “What about it has changed you or your way of thinking?”

A- It has deeply impacted me in several ways. One in particular immediately comes to mind: I now see God’s law in a new light. I used to see it as arbitrary; I could take it or leave it. My idea was Moses’ Law was for Jews, but, since I’m a Gentile, I could choose which law I wanted to follow. Now, I see God holds his priesthood responsible for law enforcement among his people. (That was how it was handled in the Camp of Israel. The Levites had police powers.) As a priest, it is not for me to enforce certain commands, such as those against stealing, murdering and dishonoring our parents, but not others, like adultery, coveting or keeping the Sabbath. If we offend in one, we offend the whole law. I am called to uphold all of God’s commands. It is all about loving the Lord with all my heart, soul, mind and strength. If I love Him, I love his Law.

As far as our nation’s law is concerned, I could keep 99% of it, but if I break one law in over forty years, I may land in jail. With me, the old argument that keeping the law does not save, used to go a long way. I used it as an excuse for avoiding the Old Testament Law. But after seeing the perfection of God’s commands and my present and future role as a priest, teacher and enforcer of God’s Law, I now have a way to please my King. I please him, not only by my obedience, but by my love for his commandments. This is prophetic. Ezekiel 36:24 and following, plus other passages, tells us God will plant in us a new heart and put in us a new spirit to obey his laws. In the last days, he will have a holy priesthood. Whether we are a part of it remains largely up to us and our attitude about His law.

There’s so much I could say, but my focus on God’s future priesthood has made clearer who will surround Christ when he comes to reign on earth. It’s repeated throughout the Bible. The Lord will have a kingdom and priests. If I do not care to learn what it means to be a kingdom and priest of God, how can I expect to play a role? The answer is, I won’t. That is sobering to me.

In general, Christians appear to be confused by the next age, the 1000-year reign of Christ on earth, and who will take part. The fault lies two ways: An unwillingness to look deeply into the subject in the Bible, and teachers who are looking at it from an incorrect theological perspective. I intend to devote a large segment of The Kings of God to the Millennium. We need to know these things now, then put them into practice. God will do his part, if we do ours. Like I said, there is so much to learn. I’ve only scratched the surface. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss it.

Q- Thank you. It’s been interesting.

A- I’ve enjoyed it.

Q- You make a unique connection in your portrayal of Melchizedek. How do you predict it will go over with the public?

A- I don’t think “unique” is helpful in this context. I prefer something in the order of “discovery.” I see it as a rich vein of gold that perhaps no human ever laid eyes on. No one would say the gold is unique, but the discovery is without precedent—at least as far as I know. Mysterious is often how Melchizedek is described, so I wrote about him in the style of an investigation. First, I laid several chapters of groundwork for the priest, and his God-given role, so we could identify them by their actions. The mine is the Old Testament and its history, so that’s where we did the biggest share of the digging. The Lord directed not only our curiosity, but he led us to the unveiling of Melchizedek and of his order of priests as well.

Q-  How do you think it will be received by Christians?

A-  Hard to say. I am not optimistic that those who share my faith will see this book for what it is. I see it as transformational, but, most are not to the point where they see anything wrong with the traditional way we are doing things. Reform must come from the outside, and this has that potential. What I write is solid from a Biblical standpoint, but lies outside the accepted boundaries of what we call “the church.”

Many will look at the title and go “Ho-hum,” though “priest” is a common Bible term and common to our faith. Some may be somewhat intrigued by the sub-title, but, after seeing it doesn’t confirm their belief about Melchizedek, they will likely dismiss it. (I ran into this already.) Others will ask their trusted church leaders or teaching elders what they think, and will meet with a negative caution such as “You must be careful about books like these! I heard it was written by a Mormon,” or something else absolutely false. Whatever enthusiasm there is, then has water poured on it. I understand, believe me. I used to do the same thing. With all of that said, I’m hopeful there are believers who will trust the Scriptures, trust the Holy Spirit and read with a Christian mind—sort of like a non-prejudiced juror charged with hearing and weighing objectively all the evidence before rendering a decision.

The first time we saw the house we live in today, nothing on the outside sparked my interest. My wife suggested we look, since it had a “For Sale” sign and was across the street from the church. We had an accepted contract on another house, but were dealing with some big obstacles. I listened and we toured it. It had a lot of things we didn’t like—they were style things like carpeting and paneling—but the price was right and buying it made a ton of sense. From the street, it is still not an eye-catcher. Inside, there are big pluses. It’s the backyard, the gardens, and all that, that have made it great for us. The thing I’m saying is if we were only subjective we wouldn’t have given it a serious look. We would have missed out on a fine home. Subjectively, this book may appear uninteresting but it is anything but–if you love God’s Word that is.

One other obstacle I should mention, keeping Christians from picking up The Priests of God and saying “Wow!” is how we receive our information. Book reading is not exactly what many are spending time doing these days. Looking at our devices and monitoring our social network is more the norm. So, if there is no buzz on Facebook or Twitter about The Priests of God, then, for those on social media, it might as well not exist.

Rank-and-file Christians are conditioned: They rather be told what to think, then how to think. That’s what our culture has become. Reading this series is work. It challenges people to use Scripture to determine what is true–which is a superb concept. God gave us a mind for figuring out things. I love to make people think about important matters. Once thinking begins, there are fabulous rewards. There is a niche-market of Christian thinkers that will absolutely love The Priests of God–if they hear about it.

(Next week’s Part 6 of this interview with John Finkbeiner will be the last in the series.)

Q- You seem to speak in epic terms about salvation and truth. Do you view The Priests of God as being on the scale of an epic or even a monumental volume?

A- With regard to the ideas and insights it contains, the answer is “Yes, I see it in big terms,” but not as a best seller or a hit among Christians or anything like that. An analogy is a treasure in an earthen jar. The jar is my part with all its flaws to the literary purists. The treasure is God’s part. The writing is mine and I’m about as plain, brown paper wrapping as anyone God could find. By that I mean, I have nothing to attract readers but my ideas. Everything God does is epic and His ways are monumental. I just describe what I see the Lord is doing and why. I consider myself more of a scribe than a writer. I do not like “author” as a description. Author, has a connotation that belongs to the Creator. I’m simply passing on revelations from studying prophecy, all of which I find astounding. I’m in awe of God and I hope that comes through.

Q- There are some rather amazing claims in The Priests of God. I don’t want to spoil anything, but did it occur to you that some of your more sensational discoveries could be wrong? What if you are mistaken?

A- I thought long and hard on this question. The decision I made when I finally sat down to write is that this is the hill on which I take my stand. God entrusted me with some wonderful and amazing revelations. (I am not saying that I am the only one who ever saw these things in Scripture, but I don’t know of others. I did not receive this from another person.) But, God prompted me to put what he was showing me in writing. I’ll be judged for it by men, but God is my judge. I’m willing to take the heat or the outright rejection of my fellow saints. Everything about The Priests of God is challenging and calculated to make God’s people think and dig into the Word. Some will react negatively and I get that. Some will ask others to think for them and be discouraged by their response, but God is in control of who does what. As for me, I’m willing to die for the truths I affirm in this book—obviously, I would not say all that if I had any doubts of being wrong.

My test of whether my conclusion is right or wrong is this: Can I open up my Bible and find confirmation everywhere? If anyone can show me from Scripture a passage that clearly contradicts what I have written, then, if I cannot harmonize it, I will delete it and do a mea culpa. If I am accurately interpreting the Bible, people may disagree, and often do, but their disagreement is not with me. I’m not claiming perfection, but I am a bent on accuracy. My reading of the Word is constant. I am finding more supportive passages all the time. I eliminated 150 pages of text–more or less–and four chapters from my first draft to pare it down to the size I want. What’s that tell you? I did not struggle to find material; I had to pare it down. The Priests of God: Unveiling the Order of Melchizedek is the real never-ending story.

The key that unlocks the mystery of Melchizedek came several years ago. I can’t exactly remember how or when, but I wrote into the book that God asked me a question. It became the kernel of a suggestion He planted in my brain, and, as it grew, I began to share it with a couple of my prize Bible prophecy students. (One was Benaiah, who was kind enough to provide the Foreword to The Priests of God, the other Elijah, who wrote the Foreword to Lifesaver.) The feedback from Benaiah caught me off-guard. What I heard was his concern. If I wrote this—I sensed him saying—I would do damage to how I am perceived. Later on, I shared with my sister Marilyn. I felt she was basically of the same mind as Benaiah, trying to safeguard my credibility. Some of that concern was caused by my inability to defend what sounded like a wild idea.

This is years ago now, but I could not let this idea go. One of the last people I shared it with was more adamant than the others. He was sure I was wrong. This was the big test. Some of his objections made sense, so I backed off and put The Priests of God on the shelf. Gradually, I picked it up again. Something was telling me I was accurate. I dug into all the objections and analyzed them. The Lord gave me sound counter-arguments to harmonize the objections, plus more evidence. He also gifted me with a strong biblically-minded brother, Elijah, who thought I was on to something. Finally, I had enough. I knew we were on solid ground. God was saying it is time. I left my position to give full attention to this baby the Lord conceived in me. My final confirmation was when Elijah said that I had persuaded him. No one but God could have done that.

The artist Vincent Van Gogh sold one painting during his lifetime—or so I heard. Since I gave the Lord control over marketing, I am content if I have to give away copies of The Priests of God. If, during my lifetime, no one gives this book a favorable review, I will be fine. I wrote it for my God and the glory of His Son. He will use it according to his purpose. In the meantime, I’m turning my attention to The Kings of God.

“Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.” Jeremiah 23:16 NIV

Before the D-Day invasion of Normandy in World War II, an unprecedented campaign of disinformation was carried out on behalf of the combined Allied forces. Realistic photos of what was, in fact, cardboard U.S. ships and  landing craft, were part of a clever ruse. It was the Nazi’s spy team in England that convinced Hitler the attack would center to the north, at Calais.

Prior to this momentous battle, Britain’s secret service converted several key German spies into double agents. Their espionage had proved credible making the spies’ disinformation all the more effective. Hitler ordered massive numbers of Nazi soldiers to defend Calais instead of the Normandy beaches. On the fateful day of June 6th, 1944, the deception proved to be the difference maker.

How many of our fellow Christians are aware that Satan is preparing an invasion of monumental proportion? (“What?” you say!) Soon the whole world will be under his control. (“Huh? How can that be?”)

Why do Christians not know this? For the same reason Hitler was fooled into looking the wrong way–disinformation.

Paul’s Second Letter to the Thessalonians was written to counter disinformation from the pulpit that threw God’s people into confusion. Brothers became alarmed after receiving a prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from Paul, saying the day of the Lord had already come (2:2). The Apostle recalled what he had taught them. The message then was exposed as fiction.

“Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come [my emphasis] until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction…”          (2 Thess. 2:3 NIV)

From established and credible pulpits, disinformation has spread which has convinced many Jesus is returning at any moment. Thus, the new breed of Thessalonian is lulled into apathy by these supposedly accurate Bible prophecies. The context of Paul’s letter teaches that before Christ comes in glory for his saints (see vs. 1) the rebellion occurs (sign #1) and the man of lawlessness is revealed (sign #2).

Wake-up! It is a set-up. From our pulpits we are told to expect Jesus; but, the Bible informs us the Lawless One arrives before Jesus does. The disinformation about who comes first will deceive many into believing that the Beast is, in fact,  Christ–so we have the rebellion or falling away. When disinformation like “no more signs” and “any moment” is promoted by an array of believable sources, it is certain to take hold among those who will not read their Bible.

Don’t fall for a cardboard Jesus. Reject the disinformation of Pre-Tribulation Rapture (PTR) preachers. Expect the complicity of leaders who claim loyalty to Christ, but offer false prophecy. This is war! Soon the wrath of Satan will be upon us.

(For more info exposing PTR as a serious danger, purchase then read “LIFESAVER” from this blog site.)

Question 11- Do you ever wonder why you? Do you get tired of the difficulties?

Answer 11- I am beginning to move beyond the “Why me?” question. Now I am more into the acceptance phase. (Sounds like the five stages of grief, doesn’t it?) It is my burden to bear and I am embracing it. I realize the pioneers get the arrows. I have seen a bit of this already from Christian “friends” but my study of prophets prepares me to deal with the hostility. This is not about me. This is not about writing a best seller. This has always been about being faithful to what God has called me to do and being used to help many through the coming darkness. I do not look for any rewards on this side but I do hope to hear a well done on the other side. I appreciate and enjoyed this opportunity to share with you. Thank you.

Question 10- How important do you feel it is that people read The Prophets of God?

Answer 10- It couldn’t be more important. This is salvation we are talking about and what is more important than that? We are close to a time of great deceit. We will be surrounded by wolves in sheep’s clothing—perhaps even angels declaring another gospel—and most are unprepared. God will send his prophets but many will refuse to hear their message because they won’t be cool or charismatic. Many will perish because they believe the lie. What I have written is not an exhaustive study on what is about to take place, but it gives everyone something big they need to think about. I hope others will come along and pick up the subject and take it further into the Word.

Question 9- What do you see that troubles you most, particularly as it relates to what you write about in The Prophets of God?

Answer 9- That is a great question since it targets our greatest danger, as I see it. As I was presenting my case to a Christian brother, I cited some Scriptures that were used in The People of God to support one of my points. He responded, “I don’t believe that!” I was speechless! This was a Bible believing, Church-going Christian. He didn’t offer other Scriptures to refute my point; he simply shut off debate by refusing to believe what I was showing him. I have seen this too many times. I am seeing a tendency to dismiss anything that runs counter to our belief system, even if the evidence from the Bible may be conclusive. American Christians want to be “right” or “mainstream” more than they want to be accurate. I have come to accept the possibility there is a veil over most minds, at least for now.  

Question 8- What audience do you intend for your books, such as The Prophets of God, to reach?

Answer 8- I realized fairly early that I was writing for students. Students are not necessarily young; neither is every young Christian a student. It is more of an attitude. But what I have discovered about this group is that they are extremely cautious. I have to tell you about this brand new Christian who was given The People of God to read. He told me how much he got out of it. It was the first book he’d ever read. But most students are reading a lot already. They won’t invest their time or money, even on something they are curious about, if they aren’t encouraged to do so by a peer or a teacher they trust. People who are not subject to “groupthink” are rare, but once an inroad is made, look out. Things could “go viral” in a hurry. That could happen, but I am okay if it doesn’t.

Question 7- What is your next book?

Answer 7- I am working on The Priests of God. Again, I am going to present a Biblical view of the true priesthood and attempt to bring what we know in line with the last days. It will expose more myths and reveal more exciting insights the Lord has given. I try to make each book rock solid, treasure filled and better written than the last one.

Question 6- You previously wrote The People of God. What kind of response did you receive from it?

Answer 6- I decided that The People of God is a gem with a richness that few have yet to appreciate—but many will. At this time, I have not had the response I thought it would have. A vital part of book sales is marketing. Marketing my own writing is difficult for me. A customer who judges the book by me or by its cover may be reluctant to take it seriously. If that obstacle is overcome, the next one is reading for comprehension what I wrote to grasp the message that is there. The principle that was quoted by Jesus applies, “There is no honor for prophets in their hometown.” My focus is on writing and publishing my next book or other written materials while I have the opportunity.

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